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		<title>By: U First</title>
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		<dc:creator>U First</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 May 2012 09:05:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Best thing to do is this:
 
Walk in casually dressed. Smile and tell the person you will get back with them. As they saunder back over to you, tell them, you are still checking out the car. 
 
When you are ready to talk to them, tell them what you want. That&#039;s it. They will go into their speal about what you really want, what you really need, and what you look good in. Tell them it&#039;s all baloney and you can&#039;t be taken. This is your budget, this the car you want.
 
But wait. Tell them you will think about it. Go home and get some sleep. Do you really want that car? Can you come up with at least half the cash so you won&#039;t have to sell your arm, leg and child per month with the car payments? If you can answer these questions, then you are ready to go back to make a deal. 
 
If the person says he only wants so much down, insist that you will give him half of what the car is. Before doing that, tell the person this is what you want to pay for the car. Say the vehicle is 11 grand. You say, no way buddy. You want to pay $7,000. You have $3,000 cash on you now bud. So make me a deal.
 
He will go into the office and confer with his superiors. They will talk about you as you have them over a barrel and they won&#039;t believe how smart you are. They will come back out to negotiate with you. Oh boy, here&#039;s where the fun begins. Tell them here is your $3,000.00, I want $150.00 a month payments and that&#039;s it. Now you have them by the balls.  They will finish the contract -- you will have won, and you pay instead of $150.00 a month, $300.00 a month and get the vehicle paid off early.
 
Your credit will be A+ and you will be happy.
 
This chick found out how to handle these men. Oh yeah, baby. Take it from me it works. 
 
Now if I can get a job, this advice would be great...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Best thing to do is this:<br />
 <br />
Walk in casually dressed. Smile and tell the person you will get back with them. As they saunder back over to you, tell them, you are still checking out the car. <br />
 <br />
When you are ready to talk to them, tell them what you want. That&#8217;s it. They will go into their speal about what you really want, what you really need, and what you look good in. Tell them it&#8217;s all baloney and you can&#8217;t be taken. This is your budget, this the car you want.<br />
 <br />
But wait. Tell them you will think about it. Go home and get some sleep. Do you really want that car? Can you come up with at least half the cash so you won&#8217;t have to sell your arm, leg and child per month with the car payments? If you can answer these questions, then you are ready to go back to make a deal. <br />
 <br />
If the person says he only wants so much down, insist that you will give him half of what the car is. Before doing that, tell the person this is what you want to pay for the car. Say the vehicle is 11 grand. You say, no way buddy. You want to pay $7,000. You have $3,000 cash on you now bud. So make me a deal.<br />
 <br />
He will go into the office and confer with his superiors. They will talk about you as you have them over a barrel and they won&#8217;t believe how smart you are. They will come back out to negotiate with you. Oh boy, here&#8217;s where the fun begins. Tell them here is your $3,000.00, I want $150.00 a month payments and that&#8217;s it. Now you have them by the balls.  They will finish the contract &#8212; you will have won, and you pay instead of $150.00 a month, $300.00 a month and get the vehicle paid off early.<br />
 <br />
Your credit will be A+ and you will be happy.<br />
 <br />
This chick found out how to handle these men. Oh yeah, baby. Take it from me it works. <br />
 <br />
Now if I can get a job, this advice would be great&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Babb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifton Babb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL It is people like you that make things harder then it is. We get paid the same, mostly. We are not the crooks. And yes I am looking out for your best interest. Reason is this is my career. I live on my referrals. My customers have bought from me for years and I go out of my way to help them any way I can. I go to bat for my customers. If you have not had that experience then you just have been a good consumer. You were a sucker. Since you mentioned Scion I can already tell you were a sucker. Sorry, I don&#039;t like to call names, but there are much better cars out there. Just pick up a magazine sometime.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LOL It is people like you that make things harder then it is. We get paid the same, mostly. We are not the crooks. And yes I am looking out for your best interest. Reason is this is my career. I live on my referrals. My customers have bought from me for years and I go out of my way to help them any way I can. I go to bat for my customers. If you have not had that experience then you just have been a good consumer. You were a sucker. Since you mentioned Scion I can already tell you were a sucker. Sorry, I don&#8217;t like to call names, but there are much better cars out there. Just pick up a magazine sometime.</p>
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		<title>By: Clifton Babb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifton Babb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 22:13:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Secondly, Most salesman do not make any money off the financing of your vehicle. No clue where he got his info from, but he might want to go check his sources. As a car salesman I get absolutely nothing from you financing your vehicle with me. I get most of my money off the total number of sales I make each month. I get bonuses if I sell X amount. Now some dealerships make a killing off individual car sales, but those are generally on at dealerships that are closer in the city and take advantage of commuters that won&#039;t go very far from home.
 
Understand this that in today&#039;s economy most salesmen are struggling like you are. In this day and age there are dealerships everywhere so you don&#039;t have to be stuck buying from the same one. Meaning that we have to compete against each other.
 
Best advice I can personally give you is to decide 4 things before you go out.
 
First go online and pick the car out that you like. Or if you have a friend that has one just ask them. Or maybe if you see someone, just ask them about their vehicle. If they love it they will tell you why. If they hate it they will tell you why. Go online and do some research about the cars. Most websites will let you compare features side by side the other cars in a &quot;virtual showroom&quot;. Don&#039;t go to the manufacture&#039;s website. They pick and choose the information that works better for their agenda.
 
Go test drive the top three models you like. Tell the salesman that you are not buying today. This is crutial for you. You can give him information on how to contact you if you would like, but always be looking for the door. Salesmen are trained to keep you there. If you are there you might be talked to buying.
 
Once you have picked out the manufacture and the car, next it&#039;s time to pick the price. This is highly important. Send out a request from the manufacture&#039;s website about the car you are looking for. You will then have the dealerships competing for your business. This is haggling without the burden of you having to make a decision then. Tell them their competitors prices and throw ins. This is crucial. Don&#039;t hold back information. Get all the quotes in writing or email with a complete list of what the car has inside. The model, package, and add ons. Then tell the competing dealerships what price they have to beat. Becareful with trying to get the price you &quot;think&quot; you saw. Some prices that are online don&#039;t have all the actual prices included. Also, keep in mind that dealerships are a business. With that being said you want them to make money. You can&#039;t go in Walmart and tell the clerk you are only going to pay $1.50 for the box of Wheeties that is $2.50.
 
Once you have the best price, should take a few days, then call the dealership and speak to the General Manager, NOT THE SALES MANAGER. Reason for this the GM won&#039;t lie to you. Most dealerships go through Sales Managers like my sister went through high school with boyfriends. Ask the salesman you have been conversing with how long the Sales Manager has been at that dealership. If he says a long time then there is a good chance you have found the best place. Dealerships that go through a bunch of sales managers could be a great thing, they want to sell you the car to keep their job, or they will tell you what ever you want to hear to get you to buy. Get the deal on the exact car you are buying. Have it in writing with all FEES and taxes. So that way when you arrive you will do your test drive of your vehicle, then the negotiating is already done.
 
In a hurry to write this, but I hope it helps. Car buying should be fun and exciting. Don&#039;t just show up without a game plan. Have the price, dealership, and salesman picked out before you even attempt to purchase. This will save you time, money, and stress.
 
happy hunting and God Bless!
 
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Secondly, Most salesman do not make any money off the financing of your vehicle. No clue where he got his info from, but he might want to go check his sources. As a car salesman I get absolutely nothing from you financing your vehicle with me. I get most of my money off the total number of sales I make each month. I get bonuses if I sell X amount. Now some dealerships make a killing off individual car sales, but those are generally on at dealerships that are closer in the city and take advantage of commuters that won&#8217;t go very far from home.<br />
 <br />
Understand this that in today&#8217;s economy most salesmen are struggling like you are. In this day and age there are dealerships everywhere so you don&#8217;t have to be stuck buying from the same one. Meaning that we have to compete against each other.<br />
 <br />
Best advice I can personally give you is to decide 4 things before you go out.<br />
 <br />
First go online and pick the car out that you like. Or if you have a friend that has one just ask them. Or maybe if you see someone, just ask them about their vehicle. If they love it they will tell you why. If they hate it they will tell you why. Go online and do some research about the cars. Most websites will let you compare features side by side the other cars in a &#8220;virtual showroom&#8221;. Don&#8217;t go to the manufacture&#8217;s website. They pick and choose the information that works better for their agenda.<br />
 <br />
Go test drive the top three models you like. Tell the salesman that you are not buying today. This is crutial for you. You can give him information on how to contact you if you would like, but always be looking for the door. Salesmen are trained to keep you there. If you are there you might be talked to buying.<br />
 <br />
Once you have picked out the manufacture and the car, next it&#8217;s time to pick the price. This is highly important. Send out a request from the manufacture&#8217;s website about the car you are looking for. You will then have the dealerships competing for your business. This is haggling without the burden of you having to make a decision then. Tell them their competitors prices and throw ins. This is crucial. Don&#8217;t hold back information. Get all the quotes in writing or email with a complete list of what the car has inside. The model, package, and add ons. Then tell the competing dealerships what price they have to beat. Becareful with trying to get the price you &#8220;think&#8221; you saw. Some prices that are online don&#8217;t have all the actual prices included. Also, keep in mind that dealerships are a business. With that being said you want them to make money. You can&#8217;t go in Walmart and tell the clerk you are only going to pay $1.50 for the box of Wheeties that is $2.50.<br />
 <br />
Once you have the best price, should take a few days, then call the dealership and speak to the General Manager, NOT THE SALES MANAGER. Reason for this the GM won&#8217;t lie to you. Most dealerships go through Sales Managers like my sister went through high school with boyfriends. Ask the salesman you have been conversing with how long the Sales Manager has been at that dealership. If he says a long time then there is a good chance you have found the best place. Dealerships that go through a bunch of sales managers could be a great thing, they want to sell you the car to keep their job, or they will tell you what ever you want to hear to get you to buy. Get the deal on the exact car you are buying. Have it in writing with all FEES and taxes. So that way when you arrive you will do your test drive of your vehicle, then the negotiating is already done.<br />
 <br />
In a hurry to write this, but I hope it helps. Car buying should be fun and exciting. Don&#8217;t just show up without a game plan. Have the price, dealership, and salesman picked out before you even attempt to purchase. This will save you time, money, and stress.<br />
 <br />
happy hunting and God Bless!<br />
 <br />
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		<title>By: Clifton Babb</title>
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		<dc:creator>Clifton Babb</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Apr 2012 20:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As a salesman I have to tell you this is complete garbage. Listen. We ask questions to tailor the vehicle around your needs. How can this be wrong. Instead of having a pushy salesman try to show you something you don&#039;t need, how about if he works for you and helps you decide on what car is best for you. We get to understand you by asking questions. If you don&#039;t want to answer them then you are not only wasting his time, but more importantly you are wasting your time. Why would you come to a car lot if you already know everything there is to know about the cars? Let me do my job by showing you the benefits to you of each vehicle. Most salesmen get paid the same regardless of vehicle so to us it doesn&#039;t matter we just want to make sure you make the best decision for yourself and your family.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As a salesman I have to tell you this is complete garbage. Listen. We ask questions to tailor the vehicle around your needs. How can this be wrong. Instead of having a pushy salesman try to show you something you don&#8217;t need, how about if he works for you and helps you decide on what car is best for you. We get to understand you by asking questions. If you don&#8217;t want to answer them then you are not only wasting his time, but more importantly you are wasting your time. Why would you come to a car lot if you already know everything there is to know about the cars? Let me do my job by showing you the benefits to you of each vehicle. Most salesmen get paid the same regardless of vehicle so to us it doesn&#8217;t matter we just want to make sure you make the best decision for yourself and your family.</p>
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		<title>By: JeremyStevens</title>
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		<dc:creator>JeremyStevens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 15 Feb 2012 23:41:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are the reason I will not negotiate with the neanderthals at a dealership.  Internet pricing and then work with a manager.  END OF STORY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are the reason I will not negotiate with the neanderthals at a dealership.  Internet pricing and then work with a manager.  END OF STORY.</p>
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		<title>By: Flavio Della Calle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Flavio Della Calle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Sep 2011 21:14:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You mad, Phillip?</description>
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		<title>By: Phillip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phillip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Mar 2011 21:40:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That was a funny comment above. The article is right on how salesman are. In reality without us car buying on your part is a huge headache. The car business does me well. I service a customers need and the money will follow. If you never been in the car business, we &quot;Crooked&quot; people make our money in hitting unit bonuses. Mark up in new cars is a thin line and with edmunds and other car buying advice it is hard to make money. On the other hand used vehicles is where we pay our bills. If i buy a car as an independent person for 200 bucks and it is worth 10 grand you think i am going to sell it to you for $200? If we make money and the customer is happy and can keep some kind of equilty then we did our job. Now some people of course we are going to make alot of profit others you dont. Depends on the situation. Dont judge a profession over cheasy movies and OLD selling techniques used in the 80s. welcome to the new century we are making a living and if you dont like it well enjoy your craigslist vehicle.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That was a funny comment above. The article is right on how salesman are. In reality without us car buying on your part is a huge headache. The car business does me well. I service a customers need and the money will follow. If you never been in the car business, we &#8220;Crooked&#8221; people make our money in hitting unit bonuses. Mark up in new cars is a thin line and with edmunds and other car buying advice it is hard to make money. On the other hand used vehicles is where we pay our bills. If i buy a car as an independent person for 200 bucks and it is worth 10 grand you think i am going to sell it to you for $200? If we make money and the customer is happy and can keep some kind of equilty then we did our job. Now some people of course we are going to make alot of profit others you dont. Depends on the situation. Dont judge a profession over cheasy movies and OLD selling techniques used in the 80s. welcome to the new century we are making a living and if you dont like it well enjoy your craigslist vehicle.</p>
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		<title>By: SDTim</title>
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		<dc:creator>SDTim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Feb 2011 20:39:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh waaahhh all these POOR car salesmen with starving families. Sales people are paid to SELL. The higher they sell a product for the more profit they take home. It&#039;s pretty simple. I think it&#039;s safe to say that unless you are buying from a no-haggle dealership like Scion then the person trying to sell you that car is NOT looking out for your best interest. I’ve educated myself before making a purchase and have saved a lot in the process. Being educated about the purchasing process really let’s you understand exactly how crooked these guys are. Sorry guys, if you don&#039;t like being labeled get a different job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh waaahhh all these POOR car salesmen with starving families. Sales people are paid to SELL. The higher they sell a product for the more profit they take home. It&#8217;s pretty simple. I think it&#8217;s safe to say that unless you are buying from a no-haggle dealership like Scion then the person trying to sell you that car is NOT looking out for your best interest. I’ve educated myself before making a purchase and have saved a lot in the process. Being educated about the purchasing process really let’s you understand exactly how crooked these guys are. Sorry guys, if you don&#8217;t like being labeled get a different job.</p>
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		<title>By: razz</title>
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		<dc:creator>razz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:51:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ive been selling new cars for two years now.. Ive been part time working my butt off to become a career firefighter. Well Im sorry I cant afford working an ambulance, where I&#039;d be making minimum wage. Who can afford a family with that? So Im selling Cars.
Telling us to get other jobs is BS. what Jobs?!
The wrap we get, Its bullshit. If you&#039;re not a serious buyer. Dont waste our time and money ( test driving and missing the opportunity for us to sell a car to a serious buyer whose already done research and is ready to take the next step). We work on commission, we dont get paid hourly. Be nice, polite respectful and UPFRONT! Because I am. If you walk onto my lot and I &quot;up&quot; you, and you&#039;re a complete bitch or jerk ill call you out, and tell you to get lost. If you approach me kindly, rather than having your guard so high up your ass. Ill do everything i can, to give you what you asked for. 

Just remember asking salesman for the best price over the phone or on the lot is getting you nowhere quick. Ask to speak to the manager. Also do remember its a business.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ive been selling new cars for two years now.. Ive been part time working my butt off to become a career firefighter. Well Im sorry I cant afford working an ambulance, where I&#8217;d be making minimum wage. Who can afford a family with that? So Im selling Cars.<br />
Telling us to get other jobs is BS. what Jobs?!<br />
The wrap we get, Its bullshit. If you&#8217;re not a serious buyer. Dont waste our time and money ( test driving and missing the opportunity for us to sell a car to a serious buyer whose already done research and is ready to take the next step). We work on commission, we dont get paid hourly. Be nice, polite respectful and UPFRONT! Because I am. If you walk onto my lot and I &#8220;up&#8221; you, and you&#8217;re a complete bitch or jerk ill call you out, and tell you to get lost. If you approach me kindly, rather than having your guard so high up your ass. Ill do everything i can, to give you what you asked for. </p>
<p>Just remember asking salesman for the best price over the phone or on the lot is getting you nowhere quick. Ask to speak to the manager. Also do remember its a business.</p>
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		<title>By: razz</title>
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		<dc:creator>razz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Feb 2011 04:28:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO ashlee:
oh yea because jobs are abundant</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO ashlee:<br />
oh yea because jobs are abundant</p>
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