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	<title>Comments on: Our Parents Tell Us To &#8220;Quit Whining&#8221; &#8211; Do They Really Understand Our Debt Situation?</title>
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		<title>By: Megan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Megan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Dec 2010 14:06:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This sure was an interesting article four years later with the economy and debt situation where it is now.  I am one of those optimistic Millennials, but I think it is good we have optimism.  This recession is hitting us hard, in that recent college graduates are finding it hard to get into the job market.  I am spending some time to go to graduate school and I am hopeful that when I get done in 4 years I can find a good job.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This sure was an interesting article four years later with the economy and debt situation where it is now.  I am one of those optimistic Millennials, but I think it is good we have optimism.  This recession is hitting us hard, in that recent college graduates are finding it hard to get into the job market.  I am spending some time to go to graduate school and I am hopeful that when I get done in 4 years I can find a good job.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:36:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Unfortunately though, many people who are currently retired, or plan on retiring in the next 5-10 years, they are relying almost completely on SS and/or an employer&#039;s pension. Obviously this trend is starting to change and more focus is being put on people needing to save in their 401k or IRAs for their retirement income, but unfortunately there is a large segment of the population out there right now that does not have this luxury. 

When I was practicing as a financial planner, it was sad to see so many people unprepared for retirement because they have been counting on SS for so many years. I would constantly meet with people in their 50&#039;s who were ready to start planning for their retirement, and I would say about 80% had less than $10,000 saved for retirement. They came to me looking for answers on retiring only to find out that SS will replace only a fraction of what they were bringing home, and if they were lucky enough to have a pension, they might possibly be able to replace 50% of their income. This came as a tremendous shock to most and their retirement dreams were crushed.

But, I agree, SS was never meant to fund someone&#039;s retirement completely, but people have looked at it as just for for so long. There has been no real pressure to save your own money for retirement, so why would you when you knew you had SS coming your way?

It is going to be a long and painful shift from the mentality of a government sponsored retirement to personal retirement savings and it will be interesting to see how the next 10-20 years play out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unfortunately though, many people who are currently retired, or plan on retiring in the next 5-10 years, they are relying almost completely on SS and/or an employer&#8217;s pension. Obviously this trend is starting to change and more focus is being put on people needing to save in their 401k or IRAs for their retirement income, but unfortunately there is a large segment of the population out there right now that does not have this luxury. </p>
<p>When I was practicing as a financial planner, it was sad to see so many people unprepared for retirement because they have been counting on SS for so many years. I would constantly meet with people in their 50&#8242;s who were ready to start planning for their retirement, and I would say about 80% had less than $10,000 saved for retirement. They came to me looking for answers on retiring only to find out that SS will replace only a fraction of what they were bringing home, and if they were lucky enough to have a pension, they might possibly be able to replace 50% of their income. This came as a tremendous shock to most and their retirement dreams were crushed.</p>
<p>But, I agree, SS was never meant to fund someone&#8217;s retirement completely, but people have looked at it as just for for so long. There has been no real pressure to save your own money for retirement, so why would you when you knew you had SS coming your way?</p>
<p>It is going to be a long and painful shift from the mentality of a government sponsored retirement to personal retirement savings and it will be interesting to see how the next 10-20 years play out.</p>
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		<title>By: JM</title>
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		<dc:creator>JM</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Nov 2006 16:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t know, SS was never meant to be a person&#039;s primary income source in retirement. That said, I&#039;m 30 and looking forward to having SS as a supplement. I Don&#039;t count on it, but if its still there, it will be a nice bonus. I have enough in my 401K right now that even if I stopped contributing, I know I won&#039;t starve. And I still have 30 plus years to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know, SS was never meant to be a person&#8217;s primary income source in retirement. That said, I&#8217;m 30 and looking forward to having SS as a supplement. I Don&#8217;t count on it, but if its still there, it will be a nice bonus. I have enough in my 401K right now that even if I stopped contributing, I know I won&#8217;t starve. And I still have 30 plus years to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 08:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think there are two sides that we need to look at here.  One, if you&#039;re a student or recent graduate (high school or college), you have to be realistic about whatever your financial situation is, and act accordingly.  If you can&#039;t afford a nice TV or the nice vacation because you don&#039;t make enough money, don&#039;t buy it.   That should also go for your choice of school -- $30,000 a year for a private college or the free ride to State U?  I went to a private college and I know I&#039;d take the free ride to State U in a second.  And certainly your career choice should at least keep earnings in mind (although you need to make sure you LIKE what you do).

On the other hand, there&#039;s always some jerk with an agenda that turns these discussions into a story about &quot;lack of personal responsibility&quot; and how we&#039;re all getting soft because of Medicare and Social Security.  It&#039;s important to note that at one time we had neither Medicare nor Social Security, and someone from that mythical past where everyone took responsibility for themselves somehow thought they were a good idea.  Maybe that great era of responsbility wasn&#039;t so great, after all? Medicare and Social Security exist because of Murphy&#039;s Law -- what can go wrong, will go wrong, for somebody.  Are you willing to let someone live in squalor when it does?  

That having been said, *I* am not leaving my future up to Medicare and Social Security -- even if the system were sound (it&#039;s not -- shame on us), I want to have fun when I&#039;m retired, not merely subsist.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think there are two sides that we need to look at here.  One, if you&#8217;re a student or recent graduate (high school or college), you have to be realistic about whatever your financial situation is, and act accordingly.  If you can&#8217;t afford a nice TV or the nice vacation because you don&#8217;t make enough money, don&#8217;t buy it.   That should also go for your choice of school &#8212; $30,000 a year for a private college or the free ride to State U?  I went to a private college and I know I&#8217;d take the free ride to State U in a second.  And certainly your career choice should at least keep earnings in mind (although you need to make sure you LIKE what you do).</p>
<p>On the other hand, there&#8217;s always some jerk with an agenda that turns these discussions into a story about &#8220;lack of personal responsibility&#8221; and how we&#8217;re all getting soft because of Medicare and Social Security.  It&#8217;s important to note that at one time we had neither Medicare nor Social Security, and someone from that mythical past where everyone took responsibility for themselves somehow thought they were a good idea.  Maybe that great era of responsbility wasn&#8217;t so great, after all? Medicare and Social Security exist because of Murphy&#8217;s Law &#8212; what can go wrong, will go wrong, for somebody.  Are you willing to let someone live in squalor when it does?  </p>
<p>That having been said, *I* am not leaving my future up to Medicare and Social Security &#8212; even if the system were sound (it&#8217;s not &#8212; shame on us), I want to have fun when I&#8217;m retired, not merely subsist.</p>
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		<title>By: moneysmartlife</title>
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		<dc:creator>moneysmartlife</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 07:08:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Michelle, great work on the satire. The line, &quot;the gift that keeps on taking&quot; is soooooo true.  

Often times we talk about the &quot;power of compounding interest&quot; when investing but unfortunately it works the other way as well. Making those minimum payments compounds the amount we owe and definitely &quot;keeps taking&quot; away from us.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Michelle, great work on the satire. The line, &#8220;the gift that keeps on taking&#8221; is soooooo true.  </p>
<p>Often times we talk about the &#8220;power of compounding interest&#8221; when investing but unfortunately it works the other way as well. Making those minimum payments compounds the amount we owe and definitely &#8220;keeps taking&#8221; away from us.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 23:32:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with you Steve, and I also don&#039;t want to get too political, but I believe there are too many ways for people to get by in life by catching a ride on some government assistance or just sue their way to the lifestyle they desire. 

Where is the personal accountability? There isn&#039;t any anymore. While this article sort of touched on it, it comes down to the mentality of if you aren&#039;t where you want to me or don&#039;t get what you want, it is someone or something else&#039;s fault. Of course, it can&#039;t be because you aren&#039;t trying or working hard enough, it has to be because you are entitled to it, so someone or something is preventing you from achieving this!

But I digress, I don&#039;t want to get too ranty, but in summary I wanted to agree with your comments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with you Steve, and I also don&#8217;t want to get too political, but I believe there are too many ways for people to get by in life by catching a ride on some government assistance or just sue their way to the lifestyle they desire. </p>
<p>Where is the personal accountability? There isn&#8217;t any anymore. While this article sort of touched on it, it comes down to the mentality of if you aren&#8217;t where you want to me or don&#8217;t get what you want, it is someone or something else&#8217;s fault. Of course, it can&#8217;t be because you aren&#8217;t trying or working hard enough, it has to be because you are entitled to it, so someone or something is preventing you from achieving this!</p>
<p>But I digress, I don&#8217;t want to get too ranty, but in summary I wanted to agree with your comments.</p>
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		<title>By: Col. Steve Austin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Col. Steve Austin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2006 22:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Helicopter parents&quot; -- that&#039;s pretty funny.  AKA Baby Boomers.  The helicopter adjective may also tangentially allude to Chairman Bernanke, who was dubbed Helicopter Ben with his anecdote (and actually he was referencing the late Milton Friedman) that the Fed could always make a helicopter drop of money to defeat deflation.  I believe that Bernanke is a Baby Boomer as well.  It all adds up now.  ;-)

Regarding your comment about Gen X taking responsibility to change the US gov&#039;t&#039;s debt situation, I agree.  I don&#039;t see any of the currently working generations focusing on it.  We hear lots of talk about reducing the deficit in the federal budget, but no talk of maintaining a budget surplus long enough to pay off that debt.  The only way it gets addressed now is by maintaining a controlled, moderate level of inflation, which erodes the real value of the debt.  A bit of a cope out in my book.

I don&#039;t wish to turn this too political, but I&#039;ll say this much:  if we want people to take responsibility, we should take away crutches like Medicare and Social Security.  Personal responsibility would become paramount, followed quickly by familial responsibility.  After that one&#039;s church and other non-profit orgs.  Only then should governments get involved, and then only local and state.  The federal government has no business holding our hands with entitlement programs.  No one is going to take care of us.  Always look out for Number 1!  Work our asses off and make it happen -- isn&#039;t that the realist American Dream?

Gen X sends.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Helicopter parents&#8221; &#8212; that&#8217;s pretty funny.  AKA Baby Boomers.  The helicopter adjective may also tangentially allude to Chairman Bernanke, who was dubbed Helicopter Ben with his anecdote (and actually he was referencing the late Milton Friedman) that the Fed could always make a helicopter drop of money to defeat deflation.  I believe that Bernanke is a Baby Boomer as well.  It all adds up now.  <img src='http://cdn.genxfinance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding your comment about Gen X taking responsibility to change the US gov&#8217;t's debt situation, I agree.  I don&#8217;t see any of the currently working generations focusing on it.  We hear lots of talk about reducing the deficit in the federal budget, but no talk of maintaining a budget surplus long enough to pay off that debt.  The only way it gets addressed now is by maintaining a controlled, moderate level of inflation, which erodes the real value of the debt.  A bit of a cope out in my book.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t wish to turn this too political, but I&#8217;ll say this much:  if we want people to take responsibility, we should take away crutches like Medicare and Social Security.  Personal responsibility would become paramount, followed quickly by familial responsibility.  After that one&#8217;s church and other non-profit orgs.  Only then should governments get involved, and then only local and state.  The federal government has no business holding our hands with entitlement programs.  No one is going to take care of us.  Always look out for Number 1!  Work our asses off and make it happen &#8212; isn&#8217;t that the realist American Dream?</p>
<p>Gen X sends.</p>
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