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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My compassion isn&#039;t lacking, but my patience with repeated comments is. 

If you personally feel there is little evidence of a recovery, that&#039;s fine. A lot of people would agree. But even you say &quot;near future&quot; and you&#039;re speaking for a demographic that is in a position to rely on this money in just a few years. So if you&#039;re 50+ and have most of your money in stocks, and subsequently lost a lot of it recently, then sure, you probably shouldn&#039;t stay the course because it&#039;s something you shouldn&#039;t have been in to begin with.

But this site targets mainly the 30-something crowd, not the boomers who are just a few years from retirement. So, the advice here is going to address those concerns. If readers typically have 30+ years until full retirement, then yes, sticking with your investment plan and continuing to invest is still the best advice. If I were to write something for the older generation, obviously it&#039;s going to depend on a lot of things. Some people are 65 and invested mostly in stocks and just fine with the losses, while others can&#039;t afford to lose even 1% of their money. But those generally aren&#039;t the average reader.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My compassion isn&#8217;t lacking, but my patience with repeated comments is. </p>
<p>If you personally feel there is little evidence of a recovery, that&#8217;s fine. A lot of people would agree. But even you say &#8220;near future&#8221; and you&#8217;re speaking for a demographic that is in a position to rely on this money in just a few years. So if you&#8217;re 50+ and have most of your money in stocks, and subsequently lost a lot of it recently, then sure, you probably shouldn&#8217;t stay the course because it&#8217;s something you shouldn&#8217;t have been in to begin with.</p>
<p>But this site targets mainly the 30-something crowd, not the boomers who are just a few years from retirement. So, the advice here is going to address those concerns. If readers typically have 30+ years until full retirement, then yes, sticking with your investment plan and continuing to invest is still the best advice. If I were to write something for the older generation, obviously it&#8217;s going to depend on a lot of things. Some people are 65 and invested mostly in stocks and just fine with the losses, while others can&#8217;t afford to lose even 1% of their money. But those generally aren&#8217;t the average reader.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Wasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Wasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 20:00:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeremy,

Your compassion is certainly lacking. I lost 27% after years of being well diversified. I’ve watched
With a sick felling in my gut people following the pack and staying in with little chance of recovery.
Every so called expert advises everyone to Stay In or you will miss the greatest upswing in history .
I see little evidence of an upswing in the near future. Most investors are not savvy enough to chart their own investments 
and must depend on advisors who will never ever advise anyone to get to while they still have some money.
I watch the greedy sharks buying even more convinced they are getting a bargain and making fun of people who get out to
Save what little they had left.
The truth as I see it: The market may not be a bargain and value may be actually near the correct amount after years of
Unrealistic highs. Everyone should at least consider perhaps we are facing many years of declines and you may never 
Recover. Of course you will be there to point out it is their own fault .</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeremy,</p>
<p>Your compassion is certainly lacking. I lost 27% after years of being well diversified. I’ve watched<br />
With a sick felling in my gut people following the pack and staying in with little chance of recovery.<br />
Every so called expert advises everyone to Stay In or you will miss the greatest upswing in history .<br />
I see little evidence of an upswing in the near future. Most investors are not savvy enough to chart their own investments<br />
and must depend on advisors who will never ever advise anyone to get to while they still have some money.<br />
I watch the greedy sharks buying even more convinced they are getting a bargain and making fun of people who get out to<br />
Save what little they had left.<br />
The truth as I see it: The market may not be a bargain and value may be actually near the correct amount after years of<br />
Unrealistic highs. Everyone should at least consider perhaps we are facing many years of declines and you may never<br />
Recover. Of course you will be there to point out it is their own fault .</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 13:48:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terry, if you&#039;re 60 and lost a lot of money that you don&#039;t have time to get back, that&#039;s your own fault (or your financial planner&#039;s fault if they are managing your investments). Someone 60 and in a position to rely on that money in a few years should be invested in a way that protects principal and generates income, not gambling heavily on stocks. If you were taking on more risk than you were comfortable with at that age, well, that was a mistake.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terry, if you&#8217;re 60 and lost a lot of money that you don&#8217;t have time to get back, that&#8217;s your own fault (or your financial planner&#8217;s fault if they are managing your investments). Someone 60 and in a position to rely on that money in a few years should be invested in a way that protects principal and generates income, not gambling heavily on stocks. If you were taking on more risk than you were comfortable with at that age, well, that was a mistake.</p>
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		<title>By: Terry Wasson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Terry Wasson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Feb 2009 12:06:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The only suggestion ever given is to
“Ride it Out”. I am 60 years old and I lost a very large amount of money that will never come back. To encourage
people to keep investing may totally ruin some lives.
If you are over 50 there is a very strong chance you will be dead by the time we recover.
I see little evidence of a recovery anytime soon and much more capital may be lost. There is surely a point where the loss is
so great that you will never recover. The always used line that historically the market always recovers may be not
accurate for today’s not so typical market. I personally will never invest again. I prefer to keep at least something to
retire on and not gamble it in a very uncertain market. I’m fully aware some of you will label me stupid and call me too weak to
be in the mutual funds. I hope I am wrong and those of you that stay with the “Ride it out crowd” don’t regret your choice.
I simply do not trust the market today and doubt I ever will.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The only suggestion ever given is to<br />
“Ride it Out”. I am 60 years old and I lost a very large amount of money that will never come back. To encourage<br />
people to keep investing may totally ruin some lives.<br />
If you are over 50 there is a very strong chance you will be dead by the time we recover.<br />
I see little evidence of a recovery anytime soon and much more capital may be lost. There is surely a point where the loss is<br />
so great that you will never recover. The always used line that historically the market always recovers may be not<br />
accurate for today’s not so typical market. I personally will never invest again. I prefer to keep at least something to<br />
retire on and not gamble it in a very uncertain market. I’m fully aware some of you will label me stupid and call me too weak to<br />
be in the mutual funds. I hope I am wrong and those of you that stay with the “Ride it out crowd” don’t regret your choice.<br />
I simply do not trust the market today and doubt I ever will.</p>
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		<title>By: David</title>
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		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 11:53:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good article. These are certainly some trying times. I was always of the mentality that over the long haul (15-20) years the market outperformed other investments by 1-3% a year (though a bit more volitile) and so you were wise to slowly dollar cost average into it. Therefore, although I work really hard and make a decent living, I&#039;ve been frugal and putting almost all of my extra money into broad based index funds and emerging markets and thinking that with 30+ years to retirement over the long run I&#039;d slowly win to it. (I&#039;m 30 and had about 300k put away in all.) But now to think that it&#039;s all down ~40% (emerging markets doing worse than S&amp;P) and that I&#039;ve lost over 120k makes me feel sick at times. Hopefully we rebound, but with all this talk of recession and such I don&#039;t see us bouncing back for 4-5 years at best.

I guess my point is that I just feel that I was unlucky (or robbed) to build up all my savings over the last 6 years, only to lose a huge chuck in this crash in 8 weeks?! Just bad luck/timing I guess.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. These are certainly some trying times. I was always of the mentality that over the long haul (15-20) years the market outperformed other investments by 1-3% a year (though a bit more volitile) and so you were wise to slowly dollar cost average into it. Therefore, although I work really hard and make a decent living, I&#8217;ve been frugal and putting almost all of my extra money into broad based index funds and emerging markets and thinking that with 30+ years to retirement over the long run I&#8217;d slowly win to it. (I&#8217;m 30 and had about 300k put away in all.) But now to think that it&#8217;s all down ~40% (emerging markets doing worse than S&amp;P) and that I&#8217;ve lost over 120k makes me feel sick at times. Hopefully we rebound, but with all this talk of recession and such I don&#8217;t see us bouncing back for 4-5 years at best.</p>
<p>I guess my point is that I just feel that I was unlucky (or robbed) to build up all my savings over the last 6 years, only to lose a huge chuck in this crash in 8 weeks?! Just bad luck/timing I guess.</p>
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		<title>By: MKL</title>
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		<dc:creator>MKL</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Oct 2008 22:02:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As the original post says, there are two ways we can look at this. The first is that, if we are just a few years from retirement, we should be making plans for some of that money to be of the table, or at least in lower risk investments, exactly because we will need to access some of that money fairly soon. On the other hand, if we have a longer time horizon, we should use the opportunity that is presenting itself as a chance to wind up some deeply discounted equities and take advantage of their upside potential when the market comes back (and history tell us it will come back, knock on wood ;) ).

My personal rule of thumb is that any money I will need in 5 years does not get invested at all. That&#039;s Money Market or high yield savings account money. Anything between five and ten years I want to see in Bond funds or perhaps lower volatility dividend stock funds. If I don&#039;t need it for ten years or more, that&#039;s the stuff I let ride in whatever funds will give me exposure to the best potential long term growth (nothing flashy, either broadly based index funds or Growth funds in a number of different areas including small cap and emerging markets).

One piece to also think about is that we don&#039;t just invest up to retirement, we need to also invest *through* retirement. My grandparents retired at 65. My grandfather passed away when he was 76. My grandmother passed away when she was 96. that&#039;s a *long* time to need a nest egg to last. They wre able to do it, though, and they were not incredibly wealthy, so I can only surmise that they had some investments that kept working for them after they retired.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As the original post says, there are two ways we can look at this. The first is that, if we are just a few years from retirement, we should be making plans for some of that money to be of the table, or at least in lower risk investments, exactly because we will need to access some of that money fairly soon. On the other hand, if we have a longer time horizon, we should use the opportunity that is presenting itself as a chance to wind up some deeply discounted equities and take advantage of their upside potential when the market comes back (and history tell us it will come back, knock on wood <img src='http://cdn.genxfinance.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>My personal rule of thumb is that any money I will need in 5 years does not get invested at all. That&#8217;s Money Market or high yield savings account money. Anything between five and ten years I want to see in Bond funds or perhaps lower volatility dividend stock funds. If I don&#8217;t need it for ten years or more, that&#8217;s the stuff I let ride in whatever funds will give me exposure to the best potential long term growth (nothing flashy, either broadly based index funds or Growth funds in a number of different areas including small cap and emerging markets).</p>
<p>One piece to also think about is that we don&#8217;t just invest up to retirement, we need to also invest *through* retirement. My grandparents retired at 65. My grandfather passed away when he was 76. My grandmother passed away when she was 96. that&#8217;s a *long* time to need a nest egg to last. They wre able to do it, though, and they were not incredibly wealthy, so I can only surmise that they had some investments that kept working for them after they retired.</p>
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		<title>By: Goran Web</title>
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		<dc:creator>Goran Web</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 12:20:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The market has shown me more recently to be wiser in my decisions and concentrate on the long term, safer solutions, great post.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The market has shown me more recently to be wiser in my decisions and concentrate on the long term, safer solutions, great post.</p>
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		<title>By: Jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 16:33:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fern, I never said that it was, or that everyone was greedy, I simply said there was a &lt;b&gt;chance&lt;/b&gt; that it was due to greed. But I meet with nearly 1,000 people each year, and the number of people who got greedy a few years ago far outnumber those who were prudent and kept their suitable allocation.

It&#039;s pretty easy to pull up someone&#039;s account history for the past 10 years and see those who were in a set portfolio for their age, and suddenly take on a 90 or 100% stock position because the markets keep churning out double digit returns. If you break your investment plan to take on risk in a market that&#039;s hot just because the money is there, you&#039;re being greedy and hoping to take advantage. So you can&#039;t be too surprised when the gravy train stops and suddenly you&#039;re losing more than you can afford to. 

That&#039;s not to say that just because anyone&#039;s portfolio is down means they were greedy, and I wasn&#039;t trying to imply that. I&#039;m simply pointing out that many people a few years ago tried to take advantage of something that was doing well, even if it wasn&#039;t in their best long-term interest, and are now shocked at the consequences. 

And you&#039;re putting words in my mouth suggesting I said individual investors brought this on. They are a long for the ride, regardless of what caused it. But many people made their individual situation worse than it had to be because of some unwise decisions they made in the past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fern, I never said that it was, or that everyone was greedy, I simply said there was a <b>chance</b> that it was due to greed. But I meet with nearly 1,000 people each year, and the number of people who got greedy a few years ago far outnumber those who were prudent and kept their suitable allocation.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s pretty easy to pull up someone&#8217;s account history for the past 10 years and see those who were in a set portfolio for their age, and suddenly take on a 90 or 100% stock position because the markets keep churning out double digit returns. If you break your investment plan to take on risk in a market that&#8217;s hot just because the money is there, you&#8217;re being greedy and hoping to take advantage. So you can&#8217;t be too surprised when the gravy train stops and suddenly you&#8217;re losing more than you can afford to. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s not to say that just because anyone&#8217;s portfolio is down means they were greedy, and I wasn&#8217;t trying to imply that. I&#8217;m simply pointing out that many people a few years ago tried to take advantage of something that was doing well, even if it wasn&#8217;t in their best long-term interest, and are now shocked at the consequences. </p>
<p>And you&#8217;re putting words in my mouth suggesting I said individual investors brought this on. They are a long for the ride, regardless of what caused it. But many people made their individual situation worse than it had to be because of some unwise decisions they made in the past.</p>
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		<title>By: fern</title>
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		<dc:creator>fern</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Oct 2008 14:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You say, &quot;That’s right, if you’re portfolio is in bad shape right now, there’s a chance it is due to greed.&quot;

This is SO not true. Nearly every sector, save real estate and precious metals, has lost money in this market and i resent the implication that i somehow brought this on myself.

With 10+ years before retirement, I had a conservative 60% in US domestic stocks, 15% in international stocks, 20% in bonds and 5% cash and i still got burnt along with everyone else.

What&#039;s happened in the stock market has nothing to do with market timing or failing to have the proper allocation. The mess on Wall Street is now a global  phenomenon fed by greed and the ease with which financiers overlooked conventional lending standards.

I am holding the course, but please don&#039;t suggest this mess was brought on my individual investors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You say, &#8220;That’s right, if you’re portfolio is in bad shape right now, there’s a chance it is due to greed.&#8221;</p>
<p>This is SO not true. Nearly every sector, save real estate and precious metals, has lost money in this market and i resent the implication that i somehow brought this on myself.</p>
<p>With 10+ years before retirement, I had a conservative 60% in US domestic stocks, 15% in international stocks, 20% in bonds and 5% cash and i still got burnt along with everyone else.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s happened in the stock market has nothing to do with market timing or failing to have the proper allocation. The mess on Wall Street is now a global  phenomenon fed by greed and the ease with which financiers overlooked conventional lending standards.</p>
<p>I am holding the course, but please don&#8217;t suggest this mess was brought on my individual investors.</p>
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		<title>By: Writer's Coin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Writer's Coin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Oct 2008 23:01:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No one can time the market. Period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No one can time the market. Period.</p>
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